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      Tamoxifen is an off-label option to treat men for breast cancer, infertility, and idiopathic gynecomastia. Lately, tamoxifen has been proposed as a treatment to prevent gynecomastia in prostate cancer patients receiving antiandrogen therapy. We reviewed the adverse events (AEs) reported in studies of men prescribed tamoxifen for these conditions to better understand its side-effect profile. We searched PubMed for randomized controlled trials (RCTs) that included safety data of tamoxifen treatment in men with prostate cancer, breast cancer, infertility, and idiopathic gynecomastia. Non-RCTs were also reviewed. The results demonstrate that the AE profile in tamoxifen-treated male populations varied. Excluding breast events, gastrointestinal, and cardiovascular problems were the most commonly reported AEs in prostate cancer patients, whereas more psychiatric disorders were reported in male breast cancer patients. Few AEs have been documented in men receiving tamoxifen for infertility and idiopathic gynecomastia. Less than 5% of men withdrew from tamoxifen therapy because of toxicity. This suggests that for most men, tamoxifen is well-tolerated.

      So if you think Nolvadex would be a decent choice over and AI; you may be able to show him the study and talk him/her into letting you trial it if you have problems with your AI and want to use a serm. Any gyno issues would need immediate attention. A lot of antidepressants and bipolar medications can cause actual enlargement of male breasts, not just the nipple.
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      https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/andr.12197

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      Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post
      Nolvadex and Talking to MD.

      Tamoxifen is an off-label option to treat men for breast cancer, infertility, and idiopathic gynecomastia. Lately, tamoxifen has been proposed as a treatment to prevent gynecomastia in prostate cancer patients receiving antiandrogen therapy. We reviewed the adverse events (AEs) reported in studies of men prescribed tamoxifen for these conditions to better understand its side-effect profile. We searched PubMed for randomized controlled trials (RCTs) that included safety data of tamoxifen treatment in men with prostate cancer, breast cancer, infertility, and idiopathic gynecomastia. Non-RCTs were also reviewed. The results demonstrate that the AE profile in tamoxifen-treated male populations varied. Excluding breast events, gastrointestinal, and cardiovascular problems were the most commonly reported AEs in prostate cancer patients, whereas more psychiatric disorders were reported in male breast cancer patients. Few AEs have been documented in men receiving tamoxifen for infertility and idiopathic gynecomastia. Less than 5% of men withdrew from tamoxifen therapy because of toxicity. This suggests that for most men, tamoxifen is well-tolerated.

      So if you think Nolvadex would be a decent choice over and AI; you may be able to show him the study and talk him/her into letting you trial it if you have problems with you AI and want to use a serm. Any gyno issues would need immediate attention. A lot of antidepressants and bipolar medications can cause actual enlargement of male breasts, not just the nipple.
      Link of article, 2016 :

      https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/andr.12197

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      Interesting read Nolvadex and Talking to Your MD


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      I myself am a big fan of Nolvadex over an AI on cycle. I have ran 10mg ed for over 20 weeks at a time with no discernable side effects especially in my lipid panels as compared to when I used Adex or Aromasin. Thanks for the read Max.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Thebricklayer View Post
      I myself am a big fan of Nolvadex over an AI on cycle. I have ran 10mg ed for over 20 weeks at a time with no discernable side effects especially in my lipid panels as compared to when I used Adex or Aromasin. Thanks for the read Max.
      Anytime. My reason was a client actually had been using a medication for depression and was noticing his pecs were growing and not in a good way. After research; the medication was shown to RARELY (lol) cause it. Well; did a bit more research and his MD; after letting him read the research; prescribed Nolvadex and it completely stopped the tissue growth and shrunk back. Crazy. I was wondering why in the 60-80ís most only had access to Nolvadex and a lot never got gyno; even though using test, Anadrol, Dianabol, Deca . So basically it was an option. Of course AIís are what almost all TRT docs prescribe; but some people do not tolerate them and vice versa. Evista is another newer Serm{compared to Nolvadex}. It obviously works for some and not for others but....the more you know Nolvadex and Talking to Your MD!! Nolvadex and Talking to Your MDNolvadex and Talking to Your MD

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      Thanks Max! Another great read!

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      Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post
      Anytime. My reason was a client actually had been using a medication for depression and was noticing his pecs were growing and not in a good way. After research; the medication was shown to RARELY (lol) cause it. Well; did a bit more research and his MD; after letting him read the research; prescribed Nolvadex and it completely stopped the tissue growth and shrunk back. Crazy. I was wondering why in the 60-80’s most only had access to Nolvadex and a lot never got gyno; even though using test, Anadrol, Dianabol, Deca . So basically it was an option. Of course AI’s are what almost all TRT docs prescribe; but some people do not tolerate them and vice versa. Evista is another newer Serm{compared to Nolvadex}. It obviously works for some and not for others but....the more you know Nolvadex and Talking to Your MD!! Nolvadex and Talking to Your MDNolvadex and Talking to Your MD

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      It is funny you had mentioned Evista, I actually acquired some and have been researching it. (Raloxifene)

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      Quote Originally Posted by Thebricklayer View Post
      It is funny you had mentioned Evista, I actually acquired some and have been researching it. (Raloxifene)
      Would be superior to Nolvadex, I am sure. I havenít read a lot on it{I will now,lol}. Saw a few places carry it, idk about the research liquids; it is expensive stuff in US.

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      Iíve used nolvadex and ralox. Ralox is the newer technology and supposed to be better... but Iím still experimenting to decide for sure. Sometimes itís easy to find and sometimes difficult. Iíd love to hear others experience


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